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4/4/2014 1:08 PM
 
Jim Fitzgerald wrote:

You asked the question, I took the time to answer it. If you don't want ADS-B, then don't get it. .....



Jim,
In case somehow my Rube Goldberg comment came across as lack of appreciation:
I did appreciate your detailed reply. You're not responsible for the peculiar complexities of how ADS-B has been implemented. ;-)

It's not, in my case, a matter of not wanting ADS-B but EXTREMLY limited installation space/options, and to a lesser degree budget.
Hoping if I hang there more compact/integrated ADS-B avionics will come out.... such as maybe a combinatation Transponder/ADS-B unit. After all, by the time ADS-B is required for controlled airspace all(?) will need or at least want both transponder and ADS-B.

Alex
 
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4/4/2014 1:19 PM
 

If you own your own airplane, there are already panel mounted/transponder solutions. I'm not sure which, if any, are 2020 compliant. For me, as a renter pilot, the SkyGuardTWX transceiver for $1495 is an excellent solution. There are a lot of flying hours between now and 2020, hopefully, and this thing has already prevented a near mid-air collision. I had a plane closing in on me from above and behind and he never saw me. I saw him on my Nexus 7 and told him where I was.

I also don't know how they could have implemented ADS-B any simpler. You need a transmitter and receiver. How else could you do it? And actually, you only need the transmitter to be 2020 compliant.

 
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4/4/2014 6:33 PM
 
Jim Fitzgerald wrote:

If you own your own airplane, there are already panel mounted/transponder solutions. .....
.........this thing has already prevented a near mid-air collision. ........
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I also don't know how they could have implemented ADS-B any simpler. You need a transmitter and receiver. How else could you do it? And actually, you only need the transmitter to be 2020 compliant.




I'm hoping someone will put the ADS-B and Mode-C transponder in one box. Haven't found one so far.

I don't have any doubt that having both ADS-B in and even more so having in plus out will save some lives and other hassles/worries too.


I'm sure no avionics engineer, so totally unqualified to say how it could have been made be simpler, and even if I was not fair to second guess the designers of USA ADS-B as they apparently had some legacy considerations driving them to the solutions they came up with.
That said, FWIW on the face of it from the pilot's/buyer's point of view "simpler" might mean ONE frequency, not two, and every ADS-B in box being able to see every ADS-B out transmitter.

Alex
 
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4/4/2014 6:44 PM
 

http://www.avidyne.com/products/axp340/index.asp

They already have ADS-B out transponders. I don't know how many. ADS-B in is not required. I think the 1090 frequency was already getting overcrowded, so they needed to separate it. Most of us rarely fly above 18,000 feet, so it's not that big a deal. Around major airports, we'll see the 1090 traffic along with all other mode C traffic from the ground station signal. It's a non-issue.

You asked for an explanation of the difference between the Dual XGPS170 and SkyGuardTWX transceiver. I tried to explain that to you and now all you want to do is complain about how complex or expensive or too much hardware ADS-B requires. Why don't you forget it until 2020.

 
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4/4/2014 7:51 PM
 

This is why I bought the SkyGuardTWX transceiver...

 
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