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7/1/2022 3:42 PM
 

I have this problem too on a Samsung sm-t580. I am in large screen tablet mode so that is not it. Approach plates on Avare are much clearer than on ifly gps.

 
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7/1/2022 4:47 PM
 

I've noticed this too using my Samsung 8.4 TabS in tablet mode.  It's readable, but it's definitely not sharp like others and of course gets worse when you zoom.  Format?, Resolution?, Size?


CHAD A. BAKER | PA-28 140 | Building a Cozy IV | Life is Short, Live Your Dream and Share Your Passion!
 
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7/1/2022 10:17 PM
 

Have you guys downloaded data for the state where you're seeing this behavior?  If you're connected to the internet, iFly will get map data on-the-fly for areas you haven't downloaded, but I wonder if maybe it doesn't download the high-quality data when it gets the maps ad-hoc like that...?

I've been using iFly for close to 10 years now, and I've never had fuzzy maps, so there's something weird here.

 
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7/2/2022 6:37 PM
 

All my plates are downloaded.  Below are some screen shots of what I see.  I don't know if this is what others are referring to or not.  The plates aren't bad, but I will say I've noticed the difference in sharpness as compared to others and they seem to lose resolution more as you zoom.

At this link is an IFLY plate zoomed a bit on my 8.4" Samsung TAB S...  https://photos.app.goo.gl/Yb2mkCPRqWKSvLVP7

Compare the IFLY plate above to this plate from another EFB similarly zoomed... https://photos.app.goo.gl/1TVJ7muoZQGLgPPC6

Both are operating in tablet mode.  The second plate is sharper and doesn't seem to lose resolution as fast when I zoom.  I assume it has to do with the format and native resolution of the plates being different or maybe an effort to save space on our devices, but I don't know.  Like I said, the IFLY plates are plenty usable, but I wouldn't say they are all that sharp.  If the others posting about this are seeing something worse than this then someting else must be going on.


CHAD A. BAKER | PA-28 140 | Building a Cozy IV | Life is Short, Live Your Dream and Share Your Passion!
 
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7/3/2022 11:06 PM
 

Thanks for that explanation, and especially the comparison screenshots.  I finally understand what folks have been talking about all these years.

One of the cool things about PDFs is that the text and imagery can be vector-encoded rather than bitmap-encoded, which means the lines and curves are definited by mathematical formulas, not smal dots. That allows the PDF document to support "infinite scaling" without a loss of quality, which is something that bitmapped documents can't do--eventually the bitmapped dots get big enough to see and the illusion of smoothness breaks down.

My guess (maybe Brolin or Walter or someone can tell us the definitive answer) is that this is an instance of iFlyGPS being "held back" by the limitations of the WinCE-based iFly hardware devices, and those limitations being passed on to the iOS, Android, and Windows ports of iFly.  I'd bet that the WinCE devices didn't have a practical way to display vector-encoded PDF documents from within the iFlyGPS software, so the workaround was to generate a bitmapped image of the charts/plates whose resolution was "good enough".  (It's also possible that those bitmapped files would compress better and result in smaller data downloads and device data storage requirements, too.)

If that explanation is correct, then I wonder if the new iFlyEFB software will use vector-format charts/plates, and so support zooming without loss of clarity?  (That might be a problem, since it would require different data sets to be maintained for iFlyGPS use vs. iFlyEFB use.)

 
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