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7/10/2012 11:25 AM
 

Fortunatly for Neal he has a home built (if I read his post correctly) and doesn't have to pay an A&P to install his tranceiver. My questions is however if the Navworx tranceiver is all that is needed? Will a mode S transponder also need to be installed, and then the big question is how much will all this cost. I know it is 7 years away but it is something that must be budgeted for.

 
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7/10/2012 12:05 PM
 

Tim,

The FAA indicates the only a ADS-B out will be required. It further states the the ADS-B out in addition to Mode S transponder equipage. So it looks like both will be required in the beginning at least. Past that, I am not aware.

As for Certified Install, the transceiver and install will be substantially more. That will really just depend on the A&P and what NavWorx set the "Certified" unit price at. The current ADS600B is not certified yet, though I do believe they have submitted it for certification. That Cert will probably double the price, it's not cheap.

I'm also not aware of any ADS-B out only devices at this time. The market has jumped on the Receiver and the Transceiver, but really no Transmitters or Out devices. I am sure more will come shortly.


Shane Woodson
Vice President | Adventure Pilot LLC.
 
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7/10/2012 12:06 PM
 
Tim Myers wrote:

Fortunatly for Neal he has a home built (if I read his post correctly) and doesn't have to pay an A&P to install his tranceiver. My questions is however if the Navworx tranceiver is all that is needed? Will a mode S transponder also need to be installed, and then the big question is how much will all this cost. I know it is 7 years away but it is something that must be budgeted for.

Tim,

I fly a Commander. Certified. Panel pic showing iFly is here: gallery.commander.org/Airplanes/N1286... (the pic is a bit old, as it shows a 700 rather than 720 -- and ADS-B was not yet integrated).

The Navworx tranceiver is not yet certified, but that does not prevent a portable "install" -- much like you do with an iFly. Certified gear is my preferred route (no offence to those present), but tools like the iFly can innovate so much faster that adoption is pretty compelling. Even if the ADS-600B was certified I could only get traffic added to my Aspen MFD (and the GNS-480, but that would be pretty useless). And that traffic would be in the old TCAS symbology -- as in: direction of traffic not shown. Compare that the the iFly: CDTI symbology (arrows and pointers to show direction) for traffic, fairly complete FIS-B weather, and I never need paper charts again.

The biggest issue for me (and possibly other folks with certified aircraft) is a better place for the iFly in the panel. Durned thing is hard to reach way across the plane. And don't get me strted on suction cup mounts.

Regards,
Neal

 
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7/10/2012 7:16 PM
 

Neal,

That panel almost makes me jealous. I don't know if the Cherokee could hold all those avionics (lol). So Neal, how did you install the ADS-600? Did you mount it yourself or did you have an avionics shop to mount it? If it's not too personal, what kind of costs did you incur to install it?

Sam

 
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7/11/2012 1:09 AM
 

There are a few ADS-B out [only] devices. The only TSO'd ones are from Trig Avionics. Although last I saw they do not have an AML STC for any of them. That is TSO-C166b (as in 1090ES). There are no 978 UAT out-only devices that I have heard of.

 
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