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8/28/2018 8:16 AM
 
JoesPiper wrote:

Its just clutter and a lot of it. Another reason for ADS-B. Instead of being distracted by clutter, you see what TRACON sees with ADS-B.  Paper charts don't have the clutter. Also, where Bravo flies, VFR DOES NOT in the Denver Bravo. As far as the Springs area, most get flight following.

Whole purpose of IFR Charts.

I think you're confused about charting and the products available.  iFly is not adding anything to the FAA charts.  The charts you see in iFly (and any other EFB) are exact digital copies of what the FAA produces.  So yes, the "clutter" you mention is also on the paper TAC charts (while you can still get paper charts in this digital world).  Maybe you've never seen a paper TAC since the TAC is a seperate chart from the Sectional chart.  Its purpose is to give specific detail in high traffic areas such as Bravo airspace, so the VFR pilot can make intelligent decisions when flying in the area.  A TAC covers more than just the Bravo airspace.  It covers the area where IFR traffic is transitioning from the enroute phase to the terminal phase, which is where most VFR traffic will be.  Knowing where IFR traffic is likely to be when flying VFR in, near, or over congested airspace is important to some VFR pilots.  In fact, the FAA encourages the use of the TAC right on the Sectional:

I suggest you go to skyvector.com and zoom into the Denver area on the Sectional chart.  Then click back and forth between the Sectional chart and the TAC (buttons are near the top right of the screen) and you'll see that the TAC is actually much cleaner than the Sectional.

 If you don't want the TAC ("clutter") shown in iFly, I told you in the previous post how to avoid it.  If you'd like to complain to those responsible for the "clutter", the address is:

FAA, Aeronautical Information Services

1305 East-West Hwy

Silver Spring, MD 20910

(202) 267-5001

 

Also: TRACON, approach, and tower radar do not and never will see all traffic, and neither will ADS-B.  Don't be fooled into thinking it will.


Jeff Nokomis Clark, Mooney M20G, iFly app on ASUS ZenPad Z8s, ASUS ZenFone AR, ASUS Windows 10 tablet, Stratux ADS-B w AHRS
 
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8/28/2018 10:15 AM
 

Thanks for all the input

 
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8/28/2018 10:27 AM
 

I'm glad you are on the attack mode now ask me if I care because I don't. Usually I fly pilotage which most no longer can. I told everybody I fixed my problem. 

I'm not on attack mode.  You've made several incorrect and inconsistent statements, and I'm trying to be helpful with screenshots and links.  Whether you learn or ignore is up to you.


Jeff Nokomis Clark, Mooney M20G, iFly app on ASUS ZenPad Z8s, ASUS ZenFone AR, ASUS Windows 10 tablet, Stratux ADS-B w AHRS
 
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8/28/2018 10:32 AM
 

Thanks for all the input.

 
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8/28/2018 12:44 PM
 
I'm not sure what got edited out, but for clarification sake, TAC charts contain IFR arrival and departure routes. These are depicted as an aid to VFR pilots so they can avoid these areas of high speed, low flying IFR traffic.

When using iFly VFR charts, we see Sectional charts unless zoomed in, at which time we see TAC charts when they are available. We can also click the ICON in the lower left corner of the screen to "force" iFly to show the chart of our choosing.

The IFR arrival and departure routes shown on TAC charts are a good thing. They are not depicted for usage by IFR traffic. IFR traffic is using low or high altitude IFR charts. These IFR arrival and departure routes are depicted as an extra layer of safety for VFR pilots. If you don't want to see them, zoom out to the sectional chart or click the ICON in the lower left corner of the screen and "force" choose sectional charts.

Also, ADS-B does not show 100 percent of traffic and Flight Following does not guarantee separation. It is an advisory service available to VFR aircraft as an aid. Finally, class B is not limited to IFR traffic. I fly VFR in the Atlanta class B frequently.
 
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