[Feature request] Tower freq in airspace alert box

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[Feature request] Tower freq in airspace alert box

9/16/2016 3:09 PM

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Re: [Feature request] Tower freq in airspace alert box Modified By on 9/16/2016 6:19:50 PM

I guess there are exceptions to everything. I'll bet if we were to look at every class C airspace in the US on the Sectionals, most would have a box that says to contact APPROACH CONTROL before entering the class C.

EDIT: I just looked at 20 to 25 class C's and could not find any that said anything other than "Contact ### APP within 20nm on ###.##" I stand behind my suggestion that if iFly adds a frequency to the airspace warning pop-up, it should be the controlling Approach Control for class B or C. I will agree it should be a different controlling agency in the rare situation it is not Approach Control. For class D it should be tower frequency and ARTCC for class A.

By the way, KFLL instructions are to contact Miami APP 20NM out.

9/16/2016 10:33 PM

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Re: [Feature request] Tower freq in airspace alert box Modified By on 9/16/2016 10:51:32 PM

I think I see where are in disagreement. If I wanted to sneak in at a low altitude, below 1,200 AGL, I would not be in the class C airspace, I would be below it. I would not enter the class C until I was entering the 5nm radius class C that starts at ground level (the old airport traffic area). Yes, in that case, I would not have needed to call approach because I never entered the class C until it was time to call tower.

That, to me, is an unrealistic way to fly an airplane. Who descends to below 1,200 agl 10 or more nm away from the airport to skirt below the class C? I have been flying 52 years and never done that, although class C (old ARSA) have not been around 52 years. I have stayed below 1,200 agl when landing or departing an airport that is below the class C shelf so as not to need to call approach.

Maybe things are done differently where you work, but where I fly, approach control vectors VFR for sequencing into the traffic pattern and also provides traffic advisories (workload permitting). When you are about 5nm out, they will turn you over to tower. And for sure, DO NOT enter class B without a CLEARANCE from approach control. Flying below the shelf is not entering the class B or C.

9/29/2016 10:04 PM

Don Ellington

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Re: [Feature request] Tower freq in airspace alert box Modified By Don Ellington on 9/29/2016 10:11:09 PM

That, to me, is an unrealistic way to fly an airplane. Who descends to below 1,200 agl 10 or more nm away from the airport to skirt below the class C?

How about flying in South Florida, along the beach, from Palm Beach to the Florida Keys. Great Views and below 1000AGL(which is the same as MSL everywhere in SFL) you miss almost everybodys airspace except Pompano(PMP) and Ft Lauderdale(FLL) [attachment]SFL.png[/attachment]And the satellites around FLL are not completely owned by the Towers

P.s. All of the Class D airports around KFLL are also not as you say! HWO, FXE, OPF, and PMP all have given up their airspace above 1500 to MIA APPCH. So you will have to call appch for those Class D airports for entry at or abv 2000

9/29/2016 10:13 PM

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Re: [Feature request] Tower freq in airspace alert box Modified By on 9/29/2016 10:16:49 PM

Where on a VFR chart does it tell a pilot to contact tower instead of Approach when entering Class B or C airspace? You're the one saying don't call Approach, call tower. Sorry, you're just wrong. You call Approach before entering class B or C. They will tell you when to contact tower.