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9/20/2019 7:31 PM
 

[DISREGARD.  THIS INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND AT THE VERY BOTTOM UNDER "Additional Airport Remarks"]

With the FSS 800 number no longer in use, many airport have the closest ARTCC phone number listed for clearance delivery or closing flight plans. An example of this is at 91C Prairie Du Sac where the AFD (Chart Supplement} lists the following:

CLEARANCE DELIVERY PHONE: For CD ctc Chicago ARTCC at 630-906-8921

This would be a very important bit of information to include on your Airport Info page.

 
 ec_367_15AUG2019.pdf
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10/10/2020 8:10 AM
 

permission granted to put 2700 pages, 500MB accessible to user.

IMHO not having the AFD Chart Supplement makes ifly a toy and not a serious tool. The reason the AFD Chart Supplement is 2700 pages of pdf is because this is where the FAA has chosen to put all the disjoint information that doesn't fit into nice little boxes. Instead of continuing to make excuses just put the AFD Chart Supplement source there and let's move on. 

Without the AFD Chart Supplement I also have to have another tool like Foreflight that does have it (or carry a bunch of paper books). Why would I pay for both tools? ifly has ejected itself from the game...

 
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10/11/2020 1:04 PM
 
Chip Williams wrote:

permission granted to put 2700 pages, 500MB accessible to user.

IMHO not having the AFD Chart Supplement makes ifly a toy and not a serious tool. The reason the AFD Chart Supplement is 2700 pages of pdf is because this is where the FAA has chosen to put all the disjoint information that doesn't fit into nice little boxes. Instead of continuing to make excuses just put the AFD Chart Supplement source there and let's move on. 

Without the AFD Chart Supplement I also have to have another tool like Foreflight that does have it (or carry a bunch of paper books). Why would I pay for both tools? ifly has ejected itself from the game...

 

I certainly don't think of iFly as a toy--but I do agree that all serious navigation apps should provide the A/FD Chart Supplements OR all of the info provided in them. iFly's approach is to format the info much better than the A/FD does.

Unfortunately, however, I'm never confident that iFly has it all and misses nothing. ("Trust, but verify.") Furthermore, it's hard to be sure, because iFly rearranges the A/FD data to make it look more logical--so its strength is also its weakness.

Fortunately, it's now dead simple to search for any A/FD entry online. Just go to https://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/flight_info/aeronav/digital_products/dafd/search/

Type in the airport identifier. (e.g., KGWS) and click on the GO button.

That brings you the airport's page, with a .pdf of the relevant A/FD page in the right-hand box.

For KGWS, that's http://aeronav.faa.gov/afd/10sep2020/sw_276_10SEP2020.pdf

It would seem easy enough for iFly to have a shortcut directly to the airport page, so we'd only need to enter the airport identifier to get the .PDF.

That would of course require an internet connection--but would eliminate any need for downloading a huge file.

 

 
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10/13/2020 5:03 PM
 

This is something that we have discussed and have on our list after our big project that's taking all of our time at the moment

 
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10/24/2020 10:37 AM
 

I'll add to this discussion by saying that when the user hits a button to look at the Chart Supp data (when/if it becomes available), or the existing ALT Mins, or Take Off Mins, the app should auto search to the airport of interest rather than the user having to page down until they find it.  We should be able to find the relevent date quick when needed.  I know of competitor apps that seem to do this with ease.

 


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