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8/22/2016 11:18 AM
 

[attachment]foreflight.jpg[/attachment] [attachment]foreflight.jpg[/attachment] This past week I took a commercial flight from Atlanta to Bonaire (island 50 mi from Venezuela) which follows a course along the east coast of Florida, down the bahama chain, across Haiti then direct. As usual, I took my Ipad mini loaded with Ifly and Foreflight. I was using my Stratux with external antennae (antennae wedge in the window with clear view of the sky) to follow the route of the plane.

The only difference in this flight vs previous trips is that I used the Stratux for gps which can feed both Ifly and Foreflight.. Previously, I have brought the Ifly 720 with external antennae. The 720 usually lost connection about halfway down the bahama chain.

On this trip, I watched the flight from ATL down the Fla coast and everything was fine (both Ifly and Foreflight). Once I got out over the ocean in the Bahamas, the Ifly altitude began reading a negative altitude and hence set off alarms. The Ifly stayed in this mode all the way to Bonaire. I flipped flop back and forth between Ifly and Foreflight and determined that the Foreflight altitude was correct. I believe the distance to next waypoint and to final desitnation was correct on Ifly but the distance to next way point on Foreflight was not correct. I am not a power user for Foreflight and really hate using it so I may not be interpretting foreflight correctly. Ifly is 10 times easier to use

My confusion lies with the negative altitude in Ifly. On the return trip home, I observed the same phenomena with the altitude showing negative the entire trip from Bonaire to ATL. I tried recycling the Ipad, recycled and reloaded Ifly and even recycled Stratux.

Below are snap shots of both Ifly and Foreflight at about the same position over the bahamas between Freeport and Nassau.

Any clues on the negative altitude?

 
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8/22/2016 11:21 AM
 

hmmm, I got two pics of the Foreflight... I'll try again

 
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8/22/2016 2:30 PM
 

Update (after Jeff's comment, below) - Oops. Even tho you said you were using FF, I had iFly on my mind. So, never mind.

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I'm surprised that the airline let you run your gear in flight. When I was a younger pilot (well before 911), I brought an aviation handie-talkie on board with me. The stewardess demanded that I turn it off for the flight. (I don't think she was savvy enough to know that it was an airband unit, and if I were a bad guy, I might be able to transmit over the Controller, Although from inside the cabin, I don't think that would block anything.) But rules have changed since then.

Anyway, I'm guessing that you didn't have a baro board for your Stratux? Or, even if you did (I have one), iFly does not currently implement baro correction for traffic. (Even tho Stratux does.) So depending on the current altimeter setting (as it departs from PA of 29.92) for the part of your flight where you were below FL180, traffic will display higher or lower than what it should.

 
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8/22/2016 2:45 PM
 

What version of Stratux? This was a known error on previous versions 8.2 and below. If that's the case, perhaps ff flagged the inaccurate Stratux data and used the tablet's GPS instead.

https://github.com/cyoung/stratux/issues/402


Jeff Nokomis Clark, Mooney M20G, iFly app on ASUS ZenPad Z8s, ASUS ZenFone AR, ASUS Windows 10 tablet, Stratux ADS-B w AHRS
 
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8/22/2016 2:56 PM
 

I've been taking my gps regularly on commercial flts and have never had an issue with flight attendants. ooops, one flight attendant did make me shut down one time but came to me 15 min later and said it was ok (she checked with the captain). Most flight attendents are curious and will stop, look and ask questions. I tuck the Stratux into the seat pocket and it transmitts wirelessly to the Ipad

On this most recent trip enroute to Bonaire, we were over the Bahamas (past Nassau) when I noticed the plane do a 180 on the gps. I asked the flt attendant what was going on and she gave me a blank stare. I told her the plane had turned around and was headed toward Fla. 10 min later the captain made an announcement that they detected a pressure control problem and we were going to Orlando. Unfortunately, it took about 11 hours to repair the 757 pressure control and get us on our way.

A handheld transciever is a completely different issue.

What is a "baro board" for the Stratux? Foreflight did not seem to have a problem. I wasn't concern about traffic altitude. It shouldn't matter what the baro pressure is since the gps is reporting gps altitude which is not the same as MSL. As the picture shows, Ifly was reporting -28545 ft when we were actually about +37000 ft (gps altitude which was reasonably consistent with the captain saying we were cruising 36000

 
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